Curse

joeparamore · Feb 11, 2009, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Rangers are not intended for stance removal, kinda the same reason Monks don't have a stance remover skill.

You can't have each and every proffesion be equally balanced and have the ability to do everything just as good as each other or else there would be no point to having proffesions.

Monks = Heal
Rangers = Spread Degen
Warriors = Addren based physically Dmg
Etc
Etc

Thanks for pointing out the primary abilities of each profession, that makes your point so much more effective... The idea is to bring the ranger (and dervish) in line with the other melee characters by giving them the ability to remove stances without having to resort to a secondary profession skill or rely on a teammate.
P.S. monks can smite; rangers can trap/interupt/touch (eww); warriors can...well you have me on that one.

blue.rellik · Feb 11, 2009, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Your point is flawed. What's the point of getting a secondary otherwise?

joeparamore · Feb 11, 2009, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Your point is flawed. What's the point of getting a secondary otherwise?

The point is that the secondary shouldn't be used for the option of stance removal. Maybe you should read the OP again.

WhiteAsIce · Feb 11, 2009, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeparamore

The point is that the secondary shouldn't be used for the option of stance removal. Maybe you should read the OP again.

The point is that it's not your decision to make. You alone don't govern how others should play. If someone chooses to use a secondary for the sole purpose of stance removal (most D/W), that is his/her decision.

Master Ketsu · Feb 11, 2009, 08:03 PM // 20:03

No need to create a new skill when plenty of other underpowered stuff exists that can be buffed.

[quick shot]

Move to expertise

Change functionality to:

Fire an arrow that moves twice as fast and deals + 1....9 damage. If this skill is blocked, any stance being used by your target ends.

*increase recharge to 2

Cebe · Feb 11, 2009, 10:24 PM // 22:24

I know most of the obvious stuff has been said before, but if Rangers were given their own method of stance removal then we'd be one step closer to being able to do without secondary professions.

I think it's good that not every class can perfectly counter another.

There are plenty of secondary options for Rangers to bypass block stances (block stances being the type of stance which people most need to strip):

[Wild Throw] (as has been suggested before)
[Rigor Mortis]
[Unseen Fury] (With heroes spreading blind)

Let's not remove any more skill from the game.

_Nihilist_ · Feb 11, 2009, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Orange Milk and Celestial Beaver have said it best.

It's about balance, as laughable as is it ironic, since ANet tossed balance out of this game coming up on 3 years ago.

@ Master Ketsu

A 5e cost, 2 sec recharge stance remover? Even with the condition of only removing a stance from a blocking foe, it's too imbalanced. What happens when your opponent tosses [[Aegis]? I think not.

blue.rellik · Feb 12, 2009, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeparamore

The point is that the secondary shouldn't be used for the option of stance removal. Maybe you should read the OP again.

Who are YOU to determine what should and shouldn't be?

Forgotton200 · Feb 12, 2009, 11:08 AM // 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I know most of the obvious stuff has been said before, but if Rangers were given their own method of stance removal then we'd be one step closer to being able to do without secondary professions.

I think it's good that not every class can perfectly counter another.

There are plenty of secondary options for Rangers to bypass block stances (block stances being the type of stance which people most need to strip):

[Wild Throw] (as has been suggested before)
[Rigor Mortis]
[Unseen Fury] (With heroes spreading blind)

Let's not remove any more skill from the game.

You're right, and actually, I never used stance remover before because the other profession in my group brings it instead when it's needed.

Age · Feb 13, 2009, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by WhiteAsIce

Wtf are you choking on... Wild Blow can be used with any melee weapon. And it's definitely impractical on any bow-using Ranger. Even if being chased by a melee foe, it's not useful to include it on the skill bar.

I am just pointing out to the OP that wild blow is one option and it is better to use axe/sword and shield in melee range.

Lourens · Feb 14, 2009, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd

Stances used to be interruptible with an amazingly lucky knockdown, not sure if this is still true, though.

Troll
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[[Disrupting chop]x[[bonetti's defense]
}

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

No need to create a new skill when plenty of other underpowered stuff exists that can be buffed.

[quick shot]

Move to expertise

Change functionality to:

Fire an arrow that moves twice as fast and deals + 1....9 damage. If this skill is blocked, any stance being used by your target ends.

*increase recharge to 2

Just make the skill unblockable imo